Butle mam w bagazniku 35 litrow- niecala polowa bagaznika zostaje.
Co do instalacji pod pod bagaznikiem gazownik mi nie polecal a mnei nie zalezalo na miejscu w kufrze.
Co do dzialania gazu jestem narazie nie zapeszajac bardzo zadowolony robilem drobne pomiary przyspieszenia ze 100 -140 na 4 potem na 5 (benzyna i gaz) i co sie okazalo to samo
nie ma zadnej roznicy.
Oczywisice wszystko wyjdzie po 1 miesiacu jezdzenia jak zrobie okolo 5 tys.
Ja miniacza tez rozwazam sprzedac ale to ze wzgledu na rodzine
wieksze autko bedzie potrzebne a jak nie pojdzie to zostawie zonie i se
kupie jaka astre 2 kombi zeby jezdzic do pracy i miec bardziej rodzinne autko.
Jak tylko pzrestanie padac cykne zdjatka.
[ Dodano: Pią 04 Lip, 2008 ]
A tutaj jest fajna konweracja nie po polsku niestety jak koles chcial przerobic miniacza.
W skrocie mozna powiedziec ze to co napisane jest w 1 poscie na "przeciw" jest bardzo ladnie zkwitowane w drugim
. czyli chlop w 1 poscie pisze ze glowny problem to temeperatura i zawory. Natomiast drugi mu odpisuje ze nie ma najmniejszych probelmow bo problemy sa przy "miekkich zaworach (wykonanych z innego tworzywa - osadzonych ) " gdzie trzeba wlasnie stosowac dodatkowa lubryfikacje natomiast w mini sa normalne "metal to metal". A co do temeperatury to ze jest nieznacznie wyzsza !
Na necie jest mnostwo pzrerobionych nawet tych juz w nowej budzie tylko oczywiscie nie w polsce :d. Jak zuwazysz koles chce przerobil Cooper S ! i nie mial z tym problemu malo tego BMW nie podejmuje sie gwarancji instalacji gazu reszta pozostaje bez zmian.
Thank you for your email to MINI Customer Information.
We can confirm that MINI do not recommend and therefore do not offer conversions of our vehicles to run on LPG. This is for a number of reasons, as listed below:
• MINI petrol engines are designed for petrol fuel (liquid fuel). The use of other fuels requires massive modifications to maintain MINI standards
• At high engine loads using gas it is possible that thermal damage will occur around the valves since gas does not offer a lubrication effect. Petrol contains additives for this purpose
• MINI have reservations relating to the thermal stresses placed on exhaust components. Such high temperatures occur when gas is used as a fuel and the engine is working at full capacity that the catalytic converter may be damaged and as a result the engine will be unable to comply with emission limits
• The homologation for bivalent operation can cause problems since all OBD requirements must be satisfied. In addition, the technical integration for switching between the two fuels is very complicated
• The car becomes heavier (tanks) and the boot space is reduced in cars that do not have a spare wheel trough
As such if you were to carry out an LPG conversion on your vehicle, this would have an affect on your warranty and any service and maintenance pack, as MINI dealerships are not qualified to service and maintain converted vehicles and therefore would be unable to do so.
Neither a MINI dealership nor MINI can be held responsible for modifications to the vehicle that lead to defects.
We are sorry that we have been unable to offer a more positive response on this occasion.
Yours sincerely
MINI UK
Product Information Advisor
Ellesfield Avenue
Bracknell RG12 8TA
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Old Apr 16th, 2008, 08:52 AM #13 (permalink)
MartinH32
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Quote: Originally Posted by Union Jacks (original)
Hi there - i'm looking at Converting a brand new Cooper S to LPG for Driving Instructing.
Can you help me out with abit of info please?
1. Was it an Authorised MINI Dealership who said that your warranty wouldn't be void?
2. Who was the LPG Company? Autogas 2000? Greenfuels?
3. Have you worked out your MPG?
4. Does the LPG Warranty cover Petrol Valve or Cat problems if their deemed as LPG Faults?
cheers if you can answer any of the above
i'm also going to "POST" below a letter i had back from MINI UK about why they don't want their MINI LPG'd ;-p
Hi,
In answer to your questions:
1. When I purchased the car from the dealership they said anything wrong relating to the conversion would not be covered by the warranty. Everything else would be.
2. I used a local LPGA ceritfied company to carry out the conversion. This is an absolute must. In addition, you need to speak to people who have had the conversion carried out by the company you are intending to use. Several different systems exist. The best are Prins, Romano and BRC. I have a Romano system fitted. Make sure you do your research.
3. I have worked out my MPG to be 35MPG. Which means as the price is half what unleaded is, equates to around 70mpg in monetary terns.
4. No neither of these are covered. However to be realistic, I have not known of a car which has had cat problems since being converted. The fuel is cleaner running. As for valve seats. Only certain engines are effected by this. Mainly engines with soft valve seats. The liquid fuel lubricates these. Gas doesn't and it burns slightly hotter also. I was informed by several installers that BMW engines do not have this problem. If you are worried, a product called flashlube can be injected at the same time as the gas which provides this lubrication.
In additon, Mini will not service the LPG parts but I was informed by the dealership (sales and service) that my TLC would still be covered.
I would think twice before having the conversion done and think if after the cost of the conversion (roughly £1500) if you will recoup this in fuel savings. I know I will as I travel 40000 miles a year.
I have now done over 10000 miles on LPG since conversion. I cannot, however say this was trouble free as it took the conversion specialist a number of times to tune it correctly. Saying that, it's running fine now.
Before you convert look into the following:
1. Will you insurance company cover an LPG converted car? - Most do for no additional premium.
2. If you get GAP insurance check they will cover this. One phone call and this was sorted.
3. Recovery - I'm not sure Mini would help if the car had a breakdown caused by this. I found cheap (£35 per annum) cover that would.
4. Warranty - I went to warranty direct and although they wont cover the conversion (you converter will with a 12 - 24 month warranty) they will cover anything that has been caused by the conversion.
5. I no longer have a boot - which I'm not too bothered about.
I'm not trying to be negative about all this, just honest!!! After conversion costs I will save around £3000 over the next couple of years
Hope this lot helps.
Anymore, just ask.
[ Dodano: Pią 11 Lip, 2008 ]
Ok link do zdjec z instalcji
http://picasaweb.google.com/tomaszbozek2/
pierwszy album:D
Pzrejechalem 1000km juz i pierwsze wnioski
1. Polecam
2. Polecam
3. Jak masz watpliwosci patrz 2 wyzej
Aktualnie spalanie pzrey spokojnej jezdze na trsie 8.5 l. Bylem dzisiaj na przegladzie po 1000km i okazalo sie ze mapa gazu ma troszke wieksze dawki niz benzyny wiec troche obnizyl mi dawke . Nie wiem jak bedzie spalanie po tej zmianie dam znac pzdr.
(Spokojna jazda czyli ok 110km/h 3100obr/min )